Tag Archive: Religion

Wow what nut jobs… (Fallen Earth MMO)

Over Thanksgiving, my Brother in law was telling me about a Free MMO called “Fallen Earth” that’s available on Steam. The premise is that it’s some odd ball year far in the future like 2338, and the earth, as it were, has fallen. You’re a clone, which has been reproduced over and over again, inside the Hoover dam.
The Dam came under attack by renegades and you were killed only to be resurrected somewhere else 3 years later. There’s a whole story as to why this happened and why it took how long it did, but honestly I was so unimpressed by most of the game I wasn’t paying that close attention. The world is desolate, people are using horses heavily again because most mediums of electronic transport is gone. People have cars and motorcycles, but you have to build them yourself, they are expensive to maintain, and break down easily, gas has a shelf life and it’s not easy to find. There’s no “Armor” or “Weapon” Loot, its all scraps that you have to make “this item” and then “this item” and “this item” and use those to make this other item. It’s heavily crafting required. It’s really not a very impressive game.
So last Sunday night I was playing Fallen Earth, and out of the blue I get a clan invite for “The Last Christian Order” I figured… what the hell.. So I clicked join. I get welcomed in and I thanked them, and instantly ask them about their name. “Are you all Christian, or is it just a title? Like ‘Templar’?”
The response I got was lengthy, but basically yes. They are, they have “Christian values” no swearing, no sex talk. They expect you to hold up the Christian moral code according to the bible. I’m starting to think that these people have never really READ the bible… To top off that cake, every Sunday they have a “prayer meeting” over vent.
I thought, okay… I know a couple of WoW (World of Warcraft) Guilds like that… Short of the bible thing, and the prayer meeting, that shit is weird. Even the people in WoW know that you cannot enforce that, it’s completely unreasonable.

So I asked “Is it required that I attend the prayer meeting?”
“No, but it is heavily recommended. And if it’s more convenient, the vent meetings are all recorded and I can have it emailed to me. “

“Heavily Recommended” I read this as “Either go to the prayer meeting or we’ll send it to you in any shape possible… there will be a quiz to determine your worthiness for the gates of lies”
uh… huh…
”So would you take in an agnostic or atheist?”

The response I got was “Yes, it would be good for them to find god, those people need it more than most. We shall convert them”
And “God will set you free” was among other responses that hurt my head.

“Yeah, I don’t think I’m going to work here.”

And I left.
Why would you invite random people, that you have no previous knowledge about to your clan that is so very specific, with very specific requirements?  What a bunch of religious wack jobs.

Oh, and the UI is terrible…

My 9-year-old daughter opened the door when they knocked, saw the missionaries and instantly yelled for My wife. She went to the door, they announced who they were, and asked if they could come in. My wife informed them that she knew who they were and that we aren’t interested. One elder persisted, and stated that he could “help”. My wife informed them that we were formerly members and we are not any longer. The elders looked at each other in disbelief. The one asked as to why.

My wife explained in her open-handed way (and a lot nicer than I would have been) why, as she has her own list. Such as Jsmith taking 22 wives, some of them were only 14 years old, others who already had husbands who were still alive. She went into the inconsistencies of Church history, how there is a 4-year difference between when the first vision supposed to have happened and it really did happen according to what we are told all culminating in the established timeline making no sense. How if you read the “suggested reading” it makes sense, but if you read the whole thing and not just the suggested, the timeline is completely wrong.

She covered about 10 other subjects, as she covered each topic they took on a whiter level of pale. At some point, one elder tried to bring me into the conversation. “I’m not saying a word, you’re going to listen to her.” They then interrupted her and thanked her for her time walked away. She shut the door and said “Hmm I wonder if they are questioning themselves now. They probably didn’t like that you humanized me.”

This was last Tuesday. Friday evening, we got this http://imgur.com/RpXAW.jpg in the mail from the local bishop.

My wife saw who it was from and stated “I must have scared the crap out of them, that’s a fast response and by snail mail. He’s too scared to come to the door no doubt”

He left me his personal phone number and address, I’m tempted to call him to tell him to remove me and my wife, from church records. The other part of me says that my parents sent the Missionaries when they found out that my sister who lives in my area is not LDS. They think that I’m “inactive” but still, believe and worry that my sister’s influence on me will make me leave. Little do they fully realize that I never bought into it. I was skipping out of the church from the age of 10, I didn’t want anything to do with it. As I got older, much to the persistence of my father I tried to believe, I did everything, absolutely everything I needed to do. The Moronic challenge, and went through the temple (which by and large is extremely cultic, it makes Pagan and Wiccan Rituals look like it was done by an amateur.) and I held a calling etc…  The longer I was involved the more depressed and unhappy I was.

My sister, I don’t think knew of  the extent of my distaste for religion as a whole until she brought it up to me and asked my opinion, I didn’t push my belief, or lack thereof on her, I answered her questions and allowed her to think through it and come to her own answers. However, when she “came out” to my parents they blamed me.  Frankly, I’m offended for my sister’s sake, I honestly feel like they didn’t think that she was smart enough to come to these conclusions on her own, that I had to brainwash her to get her to think for herself. What kind of parent does that?

Here’s what’s bothering me most of all about the whole thing. They knew who we were before they showed up. Which means this wasn’t accidental, they were intentionally sent to my door. People have the best of intentions, but they go about it the wrong way, I highly suspect that I know who it is, and frankly I’m a little put-off.

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I had some religious guy show up at my door over the weekend. The guy was peddling his beliefs and kept pushing after I initially declined. I asked him who he represented, and he said that he represented some local fellowship.

I had clarify.

“No I mean, what secular belief” He looked rather confused at the word for a moment, then it’s like someone was whispering in his ear and he got a look of understanding.

“Oh, I’m a Jehovah witness” Very Proud of who he was.

“Shouldn’t you be in the Airport handing out flowers?”

I know that JW’s don’t do this, those are Hare Krishnas, but the point of asking the question was to see if he knew who he was. The guy was obviously taken aback, he stammered a bit.

“I.. I’m not sure what you’re talking about.” was his reply.

I Expanded. “JW’s are you the people in the airport handing out flowers”

“I… don’t think so.” was his reply

“Well then, maybe you should learn what your religion is before you peddle it to others.”

The guy got another stunned look on his face, obviously unsure of what to think. He didn’t even say anything he just kind of turned and walked away looking like he’d be smacked in the face with pie.

This is my second encounter with a JW. My first was when I Was 15. I was just out of school and into the summer. My parents are LDS and I was attending a Mormon Seminary school. We’d just finished old testament this last year, so it was very fresh in my head. She had two children with her. She wanted to argue how the Mormon belief was wrong with me, how it made all kinds of claims. I rebutted her politely and when she started making claims that was in her book, I asked to see her book to prove it, she handed it to me. When I pointed out the passage, She then proceeded to rip the page out of her bible and state that it “was not in her book any longer” and stomped away with her children. What an example for the kids.. really….

Please don’t mistake me, I mean no disrespect for other peoples religions.But If people are going to go Door to Door, knocking recruiting for their belief, they should have an idea of what they belief and who they are. I ask VERY hard questions if you come to my door. Don’t do it haphazardly.

In the Old Testament of The Bible, “Lucifer” does not refer to the fallen angel. “Lucifer” (light-bearer)is a generic title referring to the morning star (Venus). As such, it has been used throughout history to refer to Satan, Christ, and others. With this in mind, Isaiah 14:12 starts out “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!”. Taken as a separate verse, this appears to refer to the battle of angels – however, the PASSAGE starts at Isaiah 12:4 “Thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon” and towards the end is Isaiah 14:22 “For I will rise up against them saith the Lord of hosts, and cut of from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, Saith the Lord.” Thus Lucifer in the Old Testament refers to some unnamed Babylonian king.

Therefore  the term “Lucifer” is a translation mistake.